What has happened with fandom versus various content creators and writers and staff of various intellectual properties

I am Da lazy scholar

i am a fan of various franchises

let me weave you a story

have you considered how we got here..

because I have seen a lot of disingenuous responses

so lets take a look at all of it and deconstruct the issues basis

lets start with

what is canon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_(fiction)

The canon of a work of fiction is “the body of works taking place in a particular fictional world that are widely considered to be official or authoritative; [especially] those created by the original author or developer of the world”.[2] Canon is contrasted with, or used as the basis for, works of fan fiction and other derivative works.[3]

Canonicity

When there are multiple “official” works or original media, what material is canonical can be unclear. This is resolved either by explicitly excluding certain media from the status of canon (as in the case of Star Trek and Star Wars); by assigning different levels of canonicity to different media; by considering different but licensed media treatments official and equally canonical to the series timeline within their own continuities‘ universe, but not across them; or not resolved at all.

There is also no consensus regarding who has the authority to decide what is or isn’t canonical, with copyright holders usually declaring themselves the authorities when they want to erase or retcon materials that were approved by the setting’s original creator (with Star Wars again being an example). The definition of canon is of particular importance with regard to reboots or re-imaginings of established franchises, such as the Star Trek remake (2009), because of the ways in which it influences the viewer experience.[4]

this part of the issue

as simply put this is where we have first issues

as people have arguments here

which segways into our next point

what is a retcon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroactive_continuity

Retroactive continuity, or retcon for short, is a literary device in which facts in the world of a fictional work that have been established through the narrative itself are adjusted, ignored, supplemented, or contradicted by a subsequently published work that recontextualizes or breaks continuity with the former.[2]

There are various motivations for applying retroactive continuity, including:

  • To accommodate desired aspects of sequels or derivative works which would otherwise be ruled out.
  • To respond to negative fan reception of previous stories.
  • To correct and overcome errors or problems identified in the prior work since its publication.
  • To change or clarify how the prior work should be interpreted.
  • To match reality, when assumptions or projections of the future are later proven wrong.[Note 1]

Retcons are used by authors to increase their creative freedom, on the assumption that the changes are unimportant to the audience compared to the new story which can be told. Retcons can be diegetic or nondiegetic. For instance, by using time travel or parallel universes, an author may diegetically reintroduce a popular character they had previously killed off. More subtle and nondiegetic methods would be ignoring or expunging minor plot points to remove narrative elements the author doesn’t have interest in writing.

Retcons are common in pulp fiction, and especially in comic books by long-established publishers such as DC and Marvel.[4] The long history of popular titles and the number of writers who contribute stories can often create situations that demand clarification or revision. Retcons also appear in mangasoap operasserial dramas, movie sequels, cartoonsprofessional wrestling anglesvideo games, radio series, role-playing games, and other forms of serial fiction.[5]

Origins

An early published use of the phrase “retroactive continuity” is found in theologian E. Frank Tupper’s 1973 book The Theology of Wolfhart Pannenberg: “Pannenberg’s conception of retroactive continuity ultimately means that history flows fundamentally from the future into the past, that the future is not basically a product of the past.”[6]

A printed use of “retroactive continuity” referring to the altering of history in a fictional work is in All-Star Squadron #18 (February 1983) from DC Comics. The series was set on DC’s Earth-Two, an alternate universe in which Golden Age comic characters age in real time. All-Star Squadron was set during World War II on Earth-Two; as it was in the past of an alternate universe, all its events had repercussions on the contemporary continuity of the DC multiverse. Each issue changed the history of the fictional world in which it was set. In the letters column, a reader remarked that the comic “must make you [the creators] feel at times as if you’re painting yourself into a corner”, and, “Your matching of Golden Age comics history with new plotlines has been an artistic (and I hope financial!) success.” Writer Roy Thomas responded, “we like to think that an enthusiastic ALL-STAR booster at one of Adam Malin‘s Creation Conventions in San Diego came up with the best name for it a few months back: ‘Retroactive Continuity’. Has kind of a ring to it, don’t you think?”[7]

so what do I think the issue is…

lets look at basic concepts to add to this conversation at the core of the issue

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marketing

Marketing is the act of satisfying and retaining customers.[3] It is one of the primary components of business management and commerce.[4]

Marketing is typically conducted by the seller, typically a retailer or manufacturer. Products can be marketed to other businesses (B2B) or directly to consumers (B2C).[5] Sometimes tasks are contracted to dedicated marketing firms, like a mediamarket research, or advertising agency. Sometimes, a trade association or government agency (such as the Agricultural Marketing Service) advertises on behalf of an entire industry or locality, often a specific type of food (e.g. Got Milk?), food from a specific area, or a city or region as a tourism destination.

Market orientations are philosophies concerning the factors that should go into market planning.[6] The marketing mix, which outlines the specifics of the product and how it will be sold, including the channels that will be used to advertise the product,[7][8] is affected by the environment surrounding the product,[9] the results of marketing research and market research,[10][11] and the characteristics of the product’s target market.[12] Once these factors are determined, marketers must then decide what methods of promoting the product,[5] including use of coupons and other price inducements.[13]

Definition

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Marketing is currently defined by the American Marketing Association (AMA) as “the activity, set of institutions, and processes for creating, communicating, delivering, and exchanging offerings that have value for customers, clients, partners, and society at large”.[14] However, the definition of marketing has evolved over the years. The AMA reviews this definition and its definition for “marketing research” every three years.[14] The interests of “society at large” were added into the definition in 2008.[15] The development of the definition may be seen by comparing the 2008 definition with the AMA’s 1935 version: “Marketing is the performance of business activities that direct the flow of goods, and services from producers to consumers”.[16] The newer definition highlights the increased prominence of other stakeholders in the new conception of marketing.

The 18th century retail entrepreneur Josiah Wedgwood, who devised a number of sales methods for his tableware, is “credited with inventing modern marketing” according to the Adam Smith Institute.[17]

Recent definitions of marketing place more emphasis on the consumer relationship, as opposed to a pure exchange process. For instance, prolific marketing author and educator, Philip Kotler has evolved his definition of marketing. In 1980, he defined marketing as “satisfying needs and wants through an exchange process”,[18] and in 2018 defined it as “the process by which companies engage customers, build strong customer relationships, and create customer value in order to capture value from customers in return”.[19] A related definition, from the sales process engineering perspective, defines marketing as “a set of processes that are interconnected and interdependent with other functions of a business aimed at achieving customer interest and satisfaction”.[20]

Some definitions of marketing highlight marketing’s ability to produce value to shareholders of the firm as well. In this context, marketing can be defined as “the management process that seeks to maximise returns to shareholders by developing relationships with valued customers and creating a competitive advantage”.[21] For instance, the Chartered Institute of Marketing defines marketing from a customer-centric perspective, focusing on “the management process responsible for identifying, anticipating and satisfying customer requirements profitably”.[22]

In the past, marketing practice tended to be seen as a creative industry, which included advertisingdistribution and selling, and even today many parts of the marketing process (e.g. product designart directorbrand management, advertising, inbound marketing, copywriting etc.) involve the use of the creative arts.[23] However, because marketing makes extensive use of social sciencespsychologysociologymathematicseconomicsanthropology and neuroscience, the profession is now widely recognized as a science.[24] Marketing science has developed a concrete process that can be followed to create a marketing plan.[25]

and the Segway to the next small point

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand

brand is a name, term, design, symbol or any other feature that distinguishes one seller’s good or service from those of other sellers.[2][3][4][5] Brands are used in businessmarketing, and advertising for recognition and, importantly, to create and store value as brand equity for the object identified, to the benefit of the brand’s customers, its owners and shareholders.[6] Brand names are sometimes distinguished from generic or store brands.

The practice of branding—in the original literal sense of marking by burning—is thought to have begun with the ancient Egyptians, who are known to have engaged in livestock branding and branded slaves as early as 2,700 BCE.[7][8] Branding was used to differentiate one person’s cattle from another’s by means of a distinctive symbol burned into the animal’s skin with a hot branding iron. If a person stole any of the cattle, anyone else who saw the symbol could deduce the actual owner. The term has been extended to mean a strategic personality for a product or company, so that “brand” now suggests the values and promises that a consumer may perceive and buy into. Over time, the practice of branding objects extended to a broader range of packaging and goods offered for sale including oilwinecosmetics, and fish sauce and, in the 21st century, extends even further into services (such as legalfinancial and medical), political parties and people‘s stage names.

In the modern era, the concept of branding has expanded to include deployment by a manager of the marketing and communication techniques and tools that help to distinguish a company or products from competitors, aiming to create a lasting impression in the minds of customers. The key components that form a brand’s toolbox include a brand’s identity, personality, product design, brand communication (such as by logos and trademarks), brand awarenessbrand loyalty, and various branding (brand management) strategies.[9] Many companies believe that there is often little to differentiate between several types of products in the 21st century, hence branding is among a few remaining forms of product differentiation.[10]

Brand equity is the measurable totality of a brand’s worth and is validated by observing the effectiveness of these branding components.[11] When a customer is familiar with a brand or favors it incomparably over its competitors, a corporation has reached a high level of brand equity.[11] Brand owners manage their brands carefully to create shareholder valueBrand valuation is a management technique that ascribes a monetary value to a brand.

so still with me

we have existing intellectual properties

with an existing customer base

marketing strategies and branding

which segways into

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales

Sales are activities related to selling or the number of goods sold in a given targeted time period. The delivery of a service for a cost is also considered a sale. A period during which goods are sold for a reduced price may also be referred to as a “sale”.[1]

The seller, or the provider of the goods or services, completes a sale in an interaction with a buyer, which may occur at the point of sale or in response to a purchase order from a customer. There is a passing of title (property or ownership) of the item, and the settlement of a price, in which agreement is reached on a price for which transfer of ownership of the item will occur. The seller, not the purchaser, typically executes the sale and it may be completed prior to the obligation of payment. In the case of indirect interaction, a person who sells goods or service on behalf of the owner is known as a salesman or saleswoman or salesperson, but this often refers to someone selling goods in a store/shop, in which case other terms are also common, including salesclerk, shop assistant, and retail clerk.

In common law countries, sales are governed generally by the common law and commercial codes. In the United States, the laws governing sales of goods are mostly uniform to the extent that most jurisdictions have adopted Article 2 of the Uniform Commercial Code, albeit with some non-uniform variations.

Definition

A person or organization expressing an interest in acquiring the offered item of value is referred to as a potential buyer, prospective customer, or prospect. Buying and selling are understood to be two sides of the same “coin” or transaction. Both seller and buyer engage in a process of negotiation to consummate the exchange of values. The exchange, or selling, process has implied rules and identifiable stages. It is implied that the selling process will proceed fairly and ethically so that the parties end up nearly equally rewarded. The stages of selling, and buying, involve getting acquainted, assessing each party’s need for the other’s item of value, and determining if the values to be exchanged are equivalent or nearly so, or, in buyer’s terms, “worth the price”. Sometimes, sellers have to use their own experiences when selling products with appropriate discounts.[2]

Although the skills required are different, from a management viewpoint, sales is a part of marketing.[3] Sales often form a separate grouping in a corporate structure, employing separate specialist operatives known as salespersons (singular: salesperson). Selling is considered by many to be a sort of persuading “art”. Contrary to popular belief, the methodological approach of selling refers to a systematic process of repetitive and measurable milestones, by which a salesman relates his or her offering of a product or service in return enabling the buyer to achieve their goal in an economic way.[4]

While the sales process refers to a systematic process of repetitive and measurable milestones, the definition of the selling is somewhat ambiguous due to the close nature of advertisingpromotionpublic relations, and direct marketing.

Selling is the profession-wide term, much like marketing defines a profession. Recently, attempts have been made to clearly understand who is in the sales profession, and who is not. There are many articles looking at marketingadvertisingpromotions, and even public relations as ways to create a unique transaction.

Many believe that the focus of selling is on the human agents involved in the exchange between buyer and seller. Effective selling also requires a systems approach, at minimum involving roles that sell, enable selling, and develop sales capabilities. Selling also involves salespeople who possess a specific set of sales skills and the knowledge required to facilitate the exchange of value between buyers and sellers that is unique from marketing and advertising.

Within these three tenets, the following definition of professional selling is offered by the American Society for Training and Development (ASTD):

The holistic business system required to effectively develop, manage, enable, and execute a mutually beneficial, interpersonal exchange of goods or services for equitable value.[5]

Team selling is one way to influence sales. Team selling is “a group of people representing the sales department and other functional areas in the firm, such as finance, production, and research and development”. (Spiro) Team selling came about in the 1990s through total quality management (TQM). TQM occurs when companies work to improve their customer satisfaction by constantly improving all their operations.

Relationships with marketing

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Marketing and sales differ greatly, but they generally have the same goal. Selling is the final stage in marketing which puts the plan into effect. A marketing plan includes pricing, promotion, place, and product (the 4 P’s). A marketing department in an organization has the goals of increasing the desirability and value of the products and services to the customer and increasing the number and engagement of successful interactions between potential customers and the organization. Achieving this goal may involve the sales team using promotional techniques such as advertisingsales promotionpublicity, and public relations, creating new sales channels, or creating new products. It can also include encouraging the potential customer to visit the organization’s website, contact the organization for more information, or interact with the organization via social media channels such as TwitterFacebook and blogs. Social values play a major role in consumer decision processes. Marketing is the whole of the work on persuasion made for the whole of the target people. Sales is the process of persuasion and effort from one person to one person (B2C), or one person to a corporation (B2B), in order to make a living resource enter the company. This may occur in person, over the phone or digitally.

The field of sales process engineering views “sales” as the output of a larger system, not just as the output of one department. The larger system includes many functional areas within an organization. From this perspective, the labels “sales” and “marketing” cover several processes whose inputs and outputs supply one another. In this context, improving an “output” (such as sales) involves studying and improving the broader sales process, since the component functional areas interact and are interdependent.[6]

Many large corporations structure their marketing departments, so they are integrated with all areas of the business. They create multiple teams with a singular focus, and the managers of these teams must coordinate efforts to drive profits and business success. For example, an “inbound” campaign seeks to drive more customers “through the door”, giving the sales department a better chance of selling their product to the consumer. A good marketing program would address any potential downsides as well.

The sales department would aim to improve the interaction between the customer and the sales channel or salesperson. As sales is the forefront of any organization, this would always need to take place before any other business process may begin. Sales management involves breaking down the selling process and increasing the effectiveness of the discrete processes, as well as improving the interactions between processes. For example, in an outbound sales environment, the typical process includes outbound calling, the sales pitch, handling objections, opportunity identification, and the close. Each step of the process has sales-related issues, skills, and training needs, as well as marketing solutions to improve each discrete step.

One further common complication of marketing is the difficulty in measuring results for some marketing initiatives. Some marketing and advertising executives focus on creativity and innovation without concern for the top or bottom lines – a fundamental pitfall of marketing for marketing’s sake.

Many companies find it challenging to get their marketing and sales teams to agree.[7] The two departments, although different in nature, handle very similar concepts and have to work together to achieve the business’s goals. Building a good relationship between the two teams that encourages communication can be the key to success.[8]

Industrial marketing

The idea that marketing can potentially eliminate the need for salespeople depends entirely on context. For example, this may be possible in some B2C situations; however, for many B2B transactions (for example, those involving industrial organizations) this is mostly impossible.[9] Another dimension is the value of the goods being sold. Fast-moving consumer-goods (FMCG) require no salespeople at the point of sale to get them to jump off the supermarket shelf and into the customer’s trolley. However, the purchase of large mining equipment worth millions of dollars will require a salesperson to manage the sales process – particularly in the face of competitors. Small and medium businesses selling such large ticket items to a geographically dispersed client base use manufacturers’ representatives to provide this highly personal service while avoiding the large expense of a captive sales force.

Sales and marketing alignment and integration

Another area of discussion involves the need for alignment and integration of corporate sales and marketing functions. According to a report from the Chief Marketing Officer (CMO) Council, only 40 percent of companies have formal programs, systems or processes in place to align and integrate the two critical functions.

Sales, Digital Marketing and Automated Marketing campaigns. With the increase of the use of the internet today, sales functions of several enterprises are finding traditional methods of marketing quite old fashioned and less efficient. So the use of automated Marketing Applications is on the rise ranging from Customer Relationship Management (CRM) to sales force management.

Traditionally, these two functions, as referred above, have operated separately, left in siloed areas of tactical responsibility. Glen Petersen’s book The Profit Maximization Paradox[10] sees the changes in the competitive landscape between the 1950s and the time of writing as so dramatic that the complexity of choice, price, and opportunities for the customer forced this seemingly simple and integrated relationship between sales and marketing to change forever. Petersen goes on to highlight that salespeople spend approximately 40 percent of their time preparing customer-facing deliverables while leveraging less than 50 percent of the materials created by marketing, adding to perceptions that marketing is out of touch with the customer and that sales is resistant to messaging and strategy.

as you can see we have the basics

existing ips being marketed and sold to existing customers… and some new ones..

these are the basic ideas of a simple chain

ip content created

produced and put

customer interaction

so what the Sam hell has happened

how did this crap lead to such devises interactions where one side is being nasty to the other

note

you all picture things at the above point..

but forget I did not say which side…

take a moment to follow your internal dialogue at this point..

yes.. I am saying this whole damn thing is a fucking branding issue.. with our next point

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer_service

Customer service is the assistance and advice provided by a company through phoneonline chatmail, and e-mail to those who buy or use its products or services. Each industry requires different levels of customer service,[1] but towards the end, the idea of a well-performed service is that of increasing revenues. The perception of success of the customer service interactions is dependent on employees “who can adjust themselves to the personality of the customer”.[2] Customer service is often practiced in a way that reflects the strategies and values of a firm. Good quality customer service is usually measured through customer retention.

Customer service for some firms is part of the firm’s intangible assets and can differentiate it from others in the industry. One good customer service experience can change the entire perception a customer holds towards the organization.[3] It is expected that AI-based chatbots will significantly impact customer service and call centre roles and will increase productivity substantially.[4][5][6] Many organisations have already adopted AI chatbots to improve their customer service experience.[6][7][5]

The evolution in the service industry has identified the needs of consumers. Companies usually create policies or standards to guide their personnel to follow their particular service package. A service package is a combination of tangible and intangible characteristics a firm uses to take care of its clients.[8]

this is the part of the business game where the largest failure in this whole debate occurred..

poor customer service

best excuse given and it is an excuse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_advertising

Shock advertising or shockvertising is a type of advertising that “deliberately, rather than inadvertently, startles and offends its audience by violating norms for social values and personal ideals”.[1] It is the employment in advertising or public relations of “graphic imagery and blunt slogans to highlight”[2] a public policy issue, goods, or services. Shock advertising is designed principally to break through the advertising “clutter” to capture attention and create buzz, and also to attract an audience to a certain brand or bring awareness to a certain public service issue, health issue, or cause (e.g., urging drivers to use their seatbelts, promoting STD prevention, bringing awareness of racism and other injustices, or discouraging smoking among teens).[3]

This form of advertising is often controversial, disturbing, explicit and crass, and may entail bold and provocative political messages that challenge the public’s conventional understanding of the social order. This form of advertising may not only offend but can also frighten as well, using scare tactics and elements of fear to sell a product or deliver a public service message, making a “high impact.” In the advertising business, this combination of frightening, gory and/or offensive advertising material is known as “shockvertising” and is often considered to have been pioneered by Benetton, the Italian clothing retailers which created the line United Colors of Benetton, and its advertisements in the late 1980s (see Benetton below).[4]

Types

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Shock advertisements can be shocking and offensive for a variety of reasons, and violation of social, religious, and political norms can occur in many different ways. They can include a disregard for tradition, law or practice (e.g., lewd or tasteless sexual references or obscenity), defiance of the social or moral code (e.g., vulgarity, brutality, nudity, feces, or profanity) or the display of images or words that are horrifying, terrifying, or repulsive (e.g., gruesome or revolting scenes, or violence).[5] Some advertisements may be considered shocking, controversial or offensive not because of the way that the advertisements communicate their messages but because the products themselves are “unmentionables” not to be openly presented or discussed in the public sphere.[6] Examples of these “unmentionables” may include cigarettes, feminine hygiene products, or contraceptives.[6] However, there are several products, services or messages that could be deemed shocking or offensive to the public. For example, advertisements for weight loss programs, sexual or gender related products, clinics that provide AIDS and STD testing, funeral services, groups that advocate for less gun control, casinos which naturally support and promote gambling could all be considered controversial and offensive advertising because of the products or messages that the advertisements are selling.[6] Shocking advertising content may also entail improper or indecent language, like French Connection‘s “fcuk” campaign.

The effects

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Advertisers, psychiatrists, and social scientists have long debated the effectiveness of shock advertising. Some scientists argue that shocking ads of course evoke stronger feelings among the consumers. One finding suggests “shocking content in an advertisement significantly increases attention, benefits memory, and positively influences behavior.” [7] The same study also shows that consumers are more likely to remember shocking advertising content over advertising content that is not shocking.[5] Shock advertising could also refer to the usage of emotional appeals such as humor, sex or fear.[8] Humor has for a long time been the most frequently used communication tool within advertising, and according to branch active people it is considered to be the most effective.

The effects of shock advertising could also be explained by the theory of selective perception. Selective perception is the process by which individual selects, organizes and evaluates stimuli from the external environment to provide meaningful experiences for him- or herself. This means that people focus in certain features of their environment to the exclusion of others.[9] The consumer unconsciously chooses which information to notice and this kind of selection is dependent of different perceptual filters which are based on the consumer’s earlier experiences. One example of this kind of filter is perceptual defense.[10] Perceptual defense is the tendency for people to protect themselves against ideas, objects or situations that are threatening.[11] This means that if a consumer finds a certain kind of advertising content threatening or disturbing, this message will be filtered out. An example of this a heavy smoker who could be filtering out a picture of cancer sick lung since the content could be perceived as disturbing and uncomfortable.[10]

Target audience: direct-to-consumer advertisements are common in popular magazines, and particularly aimed at women.

You should also consider long term branding issues if using shock advertising as communication method. Using shocking pictures could affect the way consumers perceive your brand and quality of your product. The ethics is always important to have in mind, and using fear or other strong messages might not always be the best and most effective method to use.[12]

it failed

business mistakes where made

huge ones and hundreds of millions of dollars lost

i am not going to go down this long issue of interesting group think dynamics that occurred with the failed gambles over market misreads..

let me just insert something simple here

so I just put a Google search links

Edsel, new coke, crystal Pepsi, beta max, segway

just a few

now the basics of this

what we have

bad marketing and marketing rules ignored completely…

and how did this happen

well let me be honest

the lack of a devils advocate present has become standard

someone whose job is to tell the big bosses NO

doesnt matter the side

as the basic metrics and feedback loops were ignored or outright lied about. that are present to prevent product failure

again the da lazy scholar has not said anything about a side.. so note your internal monologue and see what emotions have popped up

now a few things you can do is add to your understanding

https://www.youtube.com/@companyman114

i have no association with this channel other then I listen to it

which brings us to the conversation

what the in the seven- hells happened

marvel, dc, doctor who, star trek, star wars excetra

well.. new products were created… and failed

and no one involved wanted to admit failure

star trek is the prime issue

cant say most fans are x issue

because Orville is awesome

done right

and the other issue I will point out

failures in the writers rooms

take capaldis doctor

the gods be damned man carried the whole script and cast

as for Jodi doctor

i tried.. I just couldn’t stay interested

Graham O’Brien and Ryan Sinclair

they had chemistry

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugitive_Doctor#:~:text=The%20Fugitive%20Doctor%20is%20an,colour%20to%20play%20the%20role.

The Fugitive Doctor[a] is an incarnation of the Doctor,[5][6][7][8] the protagonist of the British science fiction television series Doctor Who. She is portrayed by the English actress Jo Martin, the first person of colour to play the role.[9]

Within the programme’s narrative, the Doctor is a Time Lord, from the planet Gallifrey. The Doctor travels in a time-travelling space ship, the TARDIS. Possessing alien physiology, the Doctor, when critically injured, can regenerate into a new body, gaining a new physical appearance and personality. This plot device has allowed a number of actors, both male and female, to portray the Doctor through the decades. Each actor to play the Doctor offers a different take on the Doctor’s essential personality.

It was initially unknown where this incarnation, who is encountered during the Thirteenth Doctor‘s (Jodie Whittaker) era, fit within the show’s fictional chronology, although many commenters speculated that she was from the Doctor’s past, prior to the First Doctor.[7][10][11] “Once, Upon Time” (2021) confirmed the Fugitive Doctor to be among the incarnations from the Doctor’s past who worked for the “Division”, a Time Lord black-ops organisation, and whose existence had been erased from their memory.

The Fugitive Doctor is a dark incarnation of the character, with an acerbic tongue and a short temper.[12] She is a battle-hardened figure who does not suffer fools gladly, with an authoritative and composed demeanour who will happily use weapons if necessary.

awesome

Star trek discovery

only good episodes was part of locra in the mirror universe

the rest meh

picards first season

meh

so what happened

lack of skill in product development and delivery

writers rooms and directors and actors and actresses..

the best example is Apples foundation series

so many missed oppurtunities

it dawned on me the problem is the writing staff is NOT asimov

they lack the writing skill

if you like the show I will respond like this

do NOT pick up the books until they completely cancel the series

then pick up the books and read them

now I can hear some responses but this is a stream of thought

lets look at fantastic beast versus Harry Potter and the cursed child versus the Harry Potter series

my belief on why the movies failed was simple

the first set succeeded because they were books first

then translated to movies

fantastic beast was NOT a book first

nor was cursed child

and yes you can note the fandoms response as it appears to be similar to other issues in fandom but note the creator of the series response is different to criticisms

now pause and consider your internal monologue..

so what we have hear is simple

the issue is not the fandom

its product, product delivery, creation, existing ip, failed new product launches, poor customer service, lack of financial controls

all have lead to this issue

all I can say.. its none of the fans fault.. no matter were you sit

please note I have left out a lot of the personal experiences here

because it accomplishes nothing

dirty trick, out right gaslighting, power plays..

if you want a free education

take notes…

to the rest of others internal monologues

i leave these things here because it is needed to be heard

because a lot of the people I read responses sounded like sato here

this is how I feel

t the dream of the federation

compared to such a lose I do not fear

(insert issue)

LL&P

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